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So, American diplomats tell us that this deal could still fail, particularly if Iran doesn't agree to restrict nuclear development over the next 10 years or more. So, Secretary of State John Kerry may need more than these next two days to hammer all of this out. And that could be a problem, because Congress wants a deal in their hands by July 9.
Margaret Brennan in Vienna, thanks, Margaret. Senator Corker, what worries you the most about where things are right now in this negotiation?
Well, we have gone from dismantling their program to managing proliferation. That's the biggest concern. But right now, we have the issues of, are we going to have any time, anywhere inspections? Will we know what their past military dimensions were?
Every person who has come in to testify has talked about the importance of that. Will the IAEA ever be required to declare that Iran over time has a civil program, and not a military program? So, there are numbers of issues. It's been going on a negative trend for some time. And, John, back to what your correspondent just mentioned, it's not Congress that's pushing to have all the documents here by July the 9th.
It's these six major countries, plus Iran, that really, on behalf of the American people, they want Congress only to have 30 days to review this deal, instead of That has been going on now, and seriously, for almost two years.
And it's amazing to me that, as we come to the end of this deal, the biggest issue of concern to these countries right now is that Congress would only have 30 days, not 60 days, to review the deal. So, I did talk to Secretary Kerry yesterday.
I urged him to please take their time, try to get -- make sure these last remaining red lines that haven't been crossed -- they have crossed so many -- do not get crossed, and, qualitatively, they don't make it worse than where it already is. So, just to be clear for people, if they meet the first deadline, if they get it done by Tuesday, and you get it by Thursday, then Congress will have 30 days to discuss it.
If they miss that deadline, then Congress will get 60 days to discuss it. Let me ask you this question, Senator Corker. When you talked to Secretary Kerry, what did you get from your conversation with him? Is he too anxious to get a deal? Well, obviously, they're very anxious. I think they look at this as a legacy issue.
I have had several conversations with him and meetings to say, look, you create just as much of a legacy walking away from a bad deal as you do headlong rushing into bad deal. So, look, I know they want to consummate this. This has been going on -- actually, the original discussions began back in I would just hope again that they would take their time and finish this in the best way that they can, even though we have already gone down a bad track.
One of the things about this, John, is Iran has done an excellent job of getting these countries to focus on the IR-1 centrifuges that they have. And what we're going to end up is with a -- the deal that we know about. There's some other things they're working out right now.
But you are going to have basically a year pause, a year pause in enrichment, but what you're going to have during that time is them continuing their ballistic missile development, which is already very sophisticated. They're going to be able to continue their research and development. As was mentioned, they're going to have their sanctions relief. And so they're going to be growing.
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They're going to be getting more established. And then, after 10 years, there's something called the Iranian nuclear development program that's been agreed to. And at that point, they're basically going to be able to industrialize their program. And, by the way, this is a program that has no practical needs. This was the baseline that concerned so many people.
Why would they have 19, centrifuges? They have no practical needs for that. So, look, there are lot of concerns. Obviously, we have had a number Are these concerns red lines for you, Senator, or are these just things you would like them to button up in a deal here?
Well, these have been their stated red lines. The red lines that I'm talking about have been President Obama's red lines, John Kerry's red lines, the other countries' red lines. And yet those have all been crossed.
The remaining red lines are the anywhere, any time inspections. Now, they're obviously making sure that we have full access to scientists and they declare what their past military dimensions were.
Again, if you don't know what their capabilities are, there's almost no way to really gauge where they are. The IAEA certainly has raised this issue numbers of times.
So those are two remaining red lines that hopefully will not be crossed. That's certainly what we talked about yesterday on the phone. And then again, to set this up, John, we're basically at a time frame, and after 10 years, in essence, Iran is off and running again, and never have a situation -- and having a situation where the IAEA can declare that this is a civil program, not a military program, they have no military dimensions.
To me, those are things that hopefully will not be crossed and haven't been crossed yet as they come to the close. But, again, they're rushing, John. They're rushing so that we -- we don't have the ability -- we only have 30 days to look at this, instead of 60, which in itself should send a signal to Americans. Do you think Iran is capable at all of complying with the deal? What is your baseline feeling about Iran? Well, so one of the important elements of the Iran nuclear Review Act that we passed through Congress, I think you know, the president, unfortunately, had the ability to unilaterally put this in place by going straight to the U.
He was given sanctions waivers through a national security waiver process. And so he could go directly to the U. One of the important elements of what we were able to pass in Congress to take back some of that power, John, is the fact that after -- if a deal is reached, then the president has to certify every six months that Iran is in compliance.
Look, I think no one trusts Iran. I will say, on the other hand, the type of agreement that has been reached certainly is one that is more to their benefit than it is the rest of the world that does not want to see them proliferate.
So we will see. They're not in agreement right now, John. They're not in agreement with JPOA that was put in place a year-and-a-half ago. Senator, finally, with about 30 seconds left, I want to get your thoughts on the strike in Syria.
Do you think it's a new stage in the administration's war against ISIS? I don't think so. This again is air. We still have not worked out an agreement with Turkey on the air exclusion zones along their border, which again would bring greater ground troop ability in. We still are having issues with the train-and-equip program.
I think you have read about that. So, I don't really look at this as a new stage. The president's strategy really is one of containment in Syria and in Iraq.
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And I really don't see new developments. I'm not aware of any developments that would cause us to think that this is a new stage in the effort. Senator Corker, thanks so much.
Senator, I want to start with this possible deal with Iran over its nuclear program. If there is a deal and it comes to Congress, is it really possible that Democrats are going to buck their president on the international stage and not approve of a deal that comes out of these negotiations?
Well, I think most senators are reserving judgment. We want to see what the deal is. And I want to thank Senator Corker, who worked with Senator Cardin, to come up with this review agreement, so that we have an orderly way to look at the agreement. And I think no one knows what is going to happen at this point. The president just said last week that he would walk away from a bad deal.
So, we're simply waiting to see what the agreement is. Some of the things that came out of the April preliminary framework were positive in terms of the intrusive inspections and other things. But since then, we have heard words from the ayatollah about how he expects that somehow Congress would agree to just having them sign a piece of paper and then all the sanctions that we have worked so hard to put on would go away.
I don't think that is going to happen. So, I think everyone is united in this idea that we simply have to see what the agreement is before we jump in and say where we are on it. But, clearly, those talks are continuing, and the whole idea of the sanctions, John, was to bring Iran to the table to have these kind of negotiations, since one of our top foreign policy priorities is to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon.
So, but, clearly, Senator Corker and others who are worried about this deal are trying to affect the deal as it's being negotiated, because they worry, once something is agreed to, it gains a kind of momentum that cannot be stopped. And to stop that momentum would require Democrats to push back against it.
Just as a political matter, do you really think that Democrats would vote against their president? Again, Democrats have voted against the president before, but I do think you see a lot of Democrats simply want to see what the deal is. And like the Republicans, we have been pushing for the strongest deal possible, the most detail possible.
We know Iran has cheated on these agreements and said words and then not followed up on them before. And there are alarming things about what the ayatollah has said. And that's why we simply want to see what the agreement is. And no one wants to rush to judgment. We will pivot now to another country, troublesome in the past in its relationship with the United States, Cuba. This week, the president announced he's opening an embassy in Cuba.
You have been working very hard on a bill to increase trade, open trade to Cuba. But those who are opposed to these normalizing actions point to couple of things. They point to U. Cuba is a violator of human rights. What evidence is there that Cuba is changing its behavior, in the light of all of these new overtures from the United States?
Well, first of all, the big news this week, John, was that opening of the embassy and the announcement that that is going to happen. I think that is going to help with these kinds of negotiations. Not only are more Americans interested in going to Cuba, so that they can use an embassy.
Not only do we need more negotiations on what is happening with the economics there, but finally our personnel are going to be able to go out into the field, meet with dissidents, and meet with exiles where they are, and work on these issues and negotiate these human rights concerns. The pope is coming to Cuba. I don't think he's going to be shy about bringing up human rights issues. And I just think 54 years of a failed policy, where we haven't seen the kind of change in the government that we'd like, means we need change.
And I am really excited about the possibility, not only for Cuba, but for America as well, in terms of producing goods and sending American goods to a country of 11 million people 90 miles off our shore.
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